I'm leaning towards #2. - Sidious to Yoda. Read the pros and cons of the debate Team Debate: Mace Windu vs. Darth Sidious I'm no Star Wars expert or anything, but from what I've seen, Mace Windu is an over hyped excuse to have Sam Jackson in the movies  "He defeated Palpatine!" This is something of debate that has been discreetly going on for years, but I can't help but suspect Mace Windu didn't really defeat Palpatine (in a combat sense). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Yet he still won because he was younger and the force was with him. Physicality vs Physicality you can't overpower him either because he's naturally a beast of a physical specimen and has perfected using his raw power in the force to massively augment his physicality (to the point that he's capable of matching Grievous's offensive output, something nobody else has done). IIRC, he was moving faster than Anakin could see. It's not a stomp. It would really take a Mace and Yoda combo to beat Palpatine, although personally in a strict Disney canon perspective I think with Asoka they can get lucky 1/100 battles. Windu is an absolute beast at destroying sith. Just counting the movie feats, If Palpatine isn't allowed to intervene, i believe Mace Windu wins probably 10/10. There is no question at that point in time that Palpatine is a stronger combatant than Anakin and Mace Windu beat him. In this essential Star Wars Legends novel, the second in the Darth Bane trilogy, the fearsome Sith lord takes on a deadly new apprentice. @Silver2467: It is from the clone wars series back in 2003-2004( those are the years I think) It is a scene on Dantoine where Mace Windu takes on an army of super battle droids and destroys this big ship thing by himself. Let's look at what we know: * Windu defeated Sidious 1 on 1. R2 Both … https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/11062/did-palpatine-intentionally-lose-to-mace-windu#:~:text=Palpatine%20was%20simply%20not%20able,or%20he%20would%20have%20lost.&text=Yes%2C%20Palpatine%20pretended%20to%20lose,obvious%20opportunity%20to%20kill%20Windu, Learn more about Reddit’s use of cookies. Even with Rebels Ahsoka, who is supposedly decisively inferior to Darth Vader, the team stands no chance of winning. I think the issue here is you have an understanding or perspective of how good Palpatine is but lack that understanding of Mace. @Silver2467: Thats exactly what I'm saying I think Windu's Skill,Speed and Force feats are definetly enough to defeat Grievous. Grievous is a bad example for comparing Mace and Obi-Wan. Yoda fights Dooku/Tyranus and Palpatine/Sidious, and also uses some Force powers in Episode V, but information about him is also limited. Let's say it works someth. Althoug Windu was awesome here. No Marketing Blurb During order 66 Anakin slaughtered countless Jedi and out-duelled Lightsaber Master Cin Drallig whilst choking another Jedi with one hand. It was intuitive. That being said, I think Palpatine is clearly stronger in terms of raw Force power, and if he so chose, he could overcome the Jedi Master using methods such as lightning or telekinesis. Obi-Wan and Ahsoka are frankly non-factors. Obi-Wan and Anakin set out to find Granta Omega, who has escaped to the planet of Korriban to help the Sith destroy the Jedi Order. EVAN NOVA joins Geekdom as we chop it up about this duel from Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. It's kind of strange to see Palpatine overwhelm Yoda in almost every way during their later duel, but in the case of Mace Windu, he conveniently goofed off when Anakin . If this is DE Sidious he would murder Mace and beat Yoda with slight ease perhaps, but still beat him. I think the key focus point raised throughout the years is whether or not Windu and Palpatine could sense Anakin's approach. On top of all of this evidence, Mace is amplified to a level he’s never been before because his own inner darkness is higher than ever because of finding out the leader of the Republic is his greatest enemy and even with that amp he can only duel evenly with Palpatine. Qui-Gon told him to listen to his insticnts while flying the pod racer. The problem with using the movies is we never saw Mace really test himself against an opponent going all out who could give him a difficult time in a 1-on-1 situation. He was a veteran pilot. Anyway Grievious was able to take those Jedi on because he is a killing machine with increased strength, speed, durability and because he has 4 FREAKIN ARMS that he can spin sabres with. Ki-Adi-Mundi 10. So how is it then that he can fight them still? You are indeed where you belong. Quite frankly, these people who say Palpatine wins 10 times out of 10 with no difficulty, do not know what they’re talking about. Luke. Palpatine letting Mace Windu win (rather than Windu really defeating him) is probably, on some level, the most rational answer, and the one which is best for the story. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I don't think that Mace would hesitate in a kill or be killed situation. Features a bonus section following the novel that includes a primer on the Star Wars expanded universe, and over half a dozen excerpts from some of the most popular Star Wars books of the last thirty years! Praise for Lords of the Sith “A compelling tale [that] gives us new insight into the relationship between Darth Vader and his master, Emperor Palpatine.”—New York Daily News “Endlessly fascinating . . . a tale [that is] not just ... @MaceWindu: What do you mean "he was amped" ? This book offers a new way of seeing George Lucas' space opera--particularly the prequel trilogy, a series never given a fair chance because of constant comparisons to the iconic originals. Although Windu does stand his ground (barely), it raises the question as to why Sidious doesn't use his lightning until he's on the ground. Hmm. Who would win? Before Palpatine can correct himself and instead Execute Order 66, the GAR commanders (either through the inhibitor . And of course a regular human would never last against Jedi because the Jedi would be too fast for them. In the movies, Mace Windu only battles Palpatine/Sidious once and fights in the Battle of Geonosis, although he does not fight any other Force users in it. I would say Mace by a slight margin. Mace Windu did beat the Emperor, but lost because he was betrayed by Anakin. If this is DE Sidious he would murder Mace and beat Yoda with slight ease perhaps, but still beat him. Who survived and destroyed the Deat Star? But the thing is, that Shatterpoint needed to defeat Sidious was only present in Anakin’s fear, so he basically needed outside interference to beat him in lightsaber combat. Even if Mace thought he had naturally beaten the Sith Lord, Palpatine had hidden his true nature from Windu for years. We can argue all day about whether the cartoon where Grivous beats multiple jedi in the same time is cannon or not. The evil Trade Federation plots to take over the peaceful planet of Naboo. I can sympathize with that, although the Prequel story is so flawed anyway that it has ceased to matter to any significant extent. Battle takes place where Dooku fought Obi-Wan and Anakin in episode 2. Silver2467 - So it's Palpatine > Mace > Obi right? Mace Windu did beat the Emperor, but lost because he was betrayed by Anakin. Really? Even if the duo doesn't win, they'll press Sheev tremendously. You obviously have not read past that point where Windu would proceed to utilize said other gift to disarm Sidious, aka Shatterpoint through the form of Anakin’s fear. It would push him deep into the dark side, but when fighting a sith, Windu has the ultimate, "I am rubber, you're glue." fighting technique. Making him think he won the battle would be child's play. fighting both Savage and Maul at the same time and throwing the latter around like a ragdoll) supports that he has much more in his bag of tricks than he's letting on. Anakin arrives at Palpatine's office against instructions, to find Mace Windu standing over his beaten opponent. Still of course Obi had more impressive fights he was a main character. Might be why Mace said screw it and simply force crushed Grievous' heart. The combination of ridiculous high raw power in the force (high enough to have people convinced he was the chosen one remember), the age and experience to have mastered a decent bit of that raw power, being arguably the best user of Force based physical amplification in Canon, being naturally an extremely gifted physical specimen innately, a masterful lightsaber duelist who was the 3rd best duelist in the order before he experimented and created his own lightsaber form variation, being "the" master of an obscenely powerfully and overwhelming lightsaber form, having a unshakable determination and will to succeed, and shatterpoint as the cherry on top. I don't think Luke did any more practice with his lightsabre apart from that one time on the Millenium Falcon. Let's set some ground rules first. Sora Bulq 8. Mace Windu vs Anakin Skywalker. The farther Dooku went into the dark side to fight harder, the better Windu would become. Well Mace weakened him seriously when he force crushed his heart not sure sure Grevious ever truly recovered from that. Now onto Anakin and Kenobi. It's also worth noting that Palpatine suddenly loses his edge as soon as Anakin arrives. Palpatine and Anakin win. R1 Both are in Character. Theory 3 - Palpatine was toying with Mace the whole time and knew Anakin would show up. HOWEVER on the other side of the stick, Obi-wan defeated pre-suit Darth Vader, who was supposedly more powerful than . Have you actually watched those movies? I think Obiwan's level increased during the course of Episode III and betwen III and IV. Either could be the better fighter in this scenario so really this is 2 possibilities. @Silver2467: I am not speculating. @ComicStooge said: Obi Wan didn't tell him to start practicing Jem So or Soresu or whatever. Windu is better in combat. Cin Drallig 5. What you're saying is that combat styles can make a person win in a sabre duel even if he's just a regular guy up against a Jedi. @Silver2467: I am not speculating. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Found insideDispatched by the Republic to the planet Ord Cestus, where deadly battle droids are being manufactured, Obi-Wan Kenobi finds his diplomatic efforts to keep the droids out of Confederacy hands thwarted by a secret adversary, a situation that ... I think Sidious threw the match so he would look like a helpless old man in front of Anakin, who would turn to the Dark Side to save his helpless and longtime friend. i would say its a mix. Yes, Palpatine pretended to lose in order to turn Anakin to the dark side. If he would have been a regular human he would have lost no matter what style or form of combat he learnt from Dooku. There is no evidence suggesting Palpatine faked his loss. Mace Windu 2. Found inside – Page 183Yoda battles Dooku, whom the audience has just seen defeat Obi-Wan and Anakin rather soundly, and wins, although Dooku escapes by ... The film then ends with a pair of climactic duels: Anakin versus Obi-Wan and Yoda versus Palpatine. Found insideFive years after they defeated Darth Vader and the Emperor, Princess Leia and Han Solo are married and expecting children, and Luke is a Jedi knight, and all are unaware that the last of the Emperor's warlords plan to reclaim the empire. What was Mace Windu'. Yoda fights Dooku/Tyranus and Palpatine/Sidious, and also uses some Force powers in Episode V, but information about him is also limited. Obi-Wan 4. Matt Payne. Also in the Clone Wars, Palpatine and Yoda duel (albeit this is a force projection of Palps). The examples--despite their generally small size--include interesting math algorithms, useful utilities, and games. Brian Overland has earned rave reviews for this book's approach to teaching C++. And he could’ve killed him with Force Lightning at anytime seeing as Sidious wasn’t actually being fried by his own lightning, and it was stated that his power in the Force was so powerful that “it was beyond Vaapad” according to Mace himself. An insider's tour of the making of the latest Star Wars film provides photographs from the Lucasfilm archives, portraits of its actors and creators, and a behind-the-scenes look at everything from set designs to character development to ... A Jedi must be a fearless warrior, a guardian of justice and a scholar in the ways of the Force. After Darth Maul and Savage Opress reunite, they form an army of the galaxy's most vicious criminals. Fight takes place where Palpatine fought Savage and Maul, If this is a stomp in Palpatine's favor, Obi-wan and Anakin can have help from rebels. Then he manipulates Anakin into ending the fight as it is the final step for him to turn. "You will not stop me, soon enough Lord Vader shall become more powerful than either of us." . . . Our control will be a dagger thrust directly at Coruscant. This is the move that will win the war for us.” With these ominous words, Pors Tonith, ruthless minion of Count Dooku, declares the fate of the Republic sealed. So really, this should read "random, sadistic old sith who is well past their physical prime vs Anakin Skywalker and Obi-wan, no force powers allowed". Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! I would go with Mace considering he had a better mastery of the force than Starkiller. Anyway, never thought of that possibility, I mean a fake defeat just to show he's weak in order to trigger Anakin's reaction. Although really its impossible to tell seeing as this would basically be a sparring match since they are in character. If he did then he probably didn't have access to tutorials on lightsabre styles. I’ll start with Palpatine. Palpatine is so ecstatic that he managed to turn Anakin to the Dark Side and mess up that arrogant Mace Windu, that he fumbles his words and Executes Order 65 (removal of the Supreme Chancellor, by lethal force if necessary). You just said it yourself that Luke's force ability allowed him to learn how to use the sabre. Anakin flew that Naboo fighter after 5 seconds of practice. It would have made more sense story wise if he would have taken them on one by one. Despite this fights can sometimes go either ways as we've seen from the Mace v Palpatine and Obi v Anakin duels. Luke would win if he would let the Force guide him. Did Palpatine Throw The Fight? I think the stronger and more practiced you are in the force the better you are at lightsabre duels. He is the best ;) "weird looking asses" lol. was basically going to take Palpatine out until Anny interfered and turned the tide. Count Dooku vs Mace Windu Who Would Win. Found insideAs Jacen Solo continues his rise to power, he grows increasingly like his grandfather, Darth Vader, and his evil Sith mentor, Emperor Palpatine, until he is forced to make a horrifying choice that will forever change his own life and those ... Windu would kill/subdue Anakin, then kill the emperor. "No, Palpatine let him win"....blah,blah, blah  Obi Wan was way more effective throughout the Star Wars mythos, and defeated large threats such as Darth Maul, Anakin, Grevious , engaged Dooku twice On that note...what the heck use was the Jedi Council in those films anyways...it was like "Hey lets sit on our weird looking asses and let that Obi Wan guy save the Galaxy...then, he can watch over the next generation of Jedi", " all the rest of those guys just failed or died, the way I see it, Obi Wan = Greatest Jedi ever! These two, even if they are weaker then Obi Wan and Anakin - are not far from them. Looking at some of his other feats in the Clone Wars (e.g. @Silver2467: It's like piloting skills: A person with increased Force sensitivity is more intuitive in how to fly a vehicle he's never used before, and he'll be good at it. The fact of the matter is that (a) Palpatine is overrated as a duellist, predominantly by Legends fans, and (b) Kenobi and Anakin are underrated as duellists by most. Have you actually watched those movies? Anyway Grievious was able to take those Jedi on because he is a killing machine with increased strength, speed, durability and because he has 4 FREAKIN ARMS that he can spin sabres with. The thing is that Mace is a very offensive swordsman, where the Count is far more defensive in nature. 1v1. But why do so many rare lucky moments happen in such a short amount of time? Anakin at his best is a level nine, just like Sidious. I think those Jedi were inferior to Obi Wan in terms of aptitude in the force and because of this they were not as good combatants as he is. HOWEVER on the other side of the stick, Obi-wan defeated pre-suit Darth Vader, who was supposedly more powerful than either Palpatine OR Yoda. Thus with Vaapad, Windu would not have lost. * Yoda fought Sidious to a draw. And I am going against the trend in the answers. 1) Palpatine fought Yoda and gave him up for dead. Not to mention Mace has force crush which Obi does not. Theory 3 - Palpatine was toying with Mace the whole time and knew Anakin would show up. Add in the fact his lightsaber form exploits dark side users and feeds off his own dark side and he's super dangerous to individuals like Sith, and will always be more potent than light side users because he can tap into his darkness without succumbing to it. If you mean the RotS scenario without Anakin, then Palpatine would still win. When he sensed Anakin's arrival, he allowed himself to be disarmed. When he sensed Anakin's arrival, he allowed himself to be disarmed. Part of that may be the restraining quarters not allowing him to fully utilize his strength, but the fact remains there's a major difference between his style. Hence why I think they'd draw. Presents the adventures of Luke Skywalker in three stories, "Vector Prime," "Onslaught," and "Ruin." "Darth Maul wages war against Darth Sidious and his generals Count Dooku and General Grievous with his allies in the Shadow Collective"-- By the way, I think that the specific version of Windu would win. Theory 2 - Palpatine intended on killing Mace Windu, but underestimated Windu's capabilities and so the fight went on longer than expected. Vader was an experienced combatant and was defeated by Luke who had a single duel all his life. Impasse. He's matching Sidious' more restrained style in this scene, and if Sidious scaled it up, Windu could very well be able to compensate. Everyone's favorite Star Wars characters are pitted in unlikely and inspired match-ups. Obi-Wan vs. Boba Fett, Luke vs. Anakin, Vader vs. Yoda--who would win? Readers decide. Full color. Lightsabers only, or even bare handed, doesn't matter. Collected by acclaimed Star Wars writer Daniel Wallace and embellished by numerous esteemed Star Wars illustrators, this volume introduces new characters and history, and delves deeper into understanding the philosophies and methods behind ... Yoda 3. Mar 28, 2013. All this talk about lightsabre fighting styles is just meaningless. There's a reason to why Yoda did not let Obi-wan face the Emperor, because he wasn't strong enough. However, the one that I think would be the coolest to see is Mace Windu vs Darth Maul. Rule of Thumb: A Sith might feint weakness for a battle...but losing your lightsaber is actual weakness. It could go either way. Lets say Luke has had 1 hour of training with a lightabre and he would have to go up against a normal human who was a master of a lightsabre form. Palpatine is so ecstatic that he managed to turn Anakin to the Dark Side and mess up that arrogant Mace Windu, that he fumbles his words and Executes Order 65 (removal of the Supreme Chancellor, by lethal force if necessary). You can't overpower him with the force because without being a literal force God you're not pushing past that raw power behind his force shield. Just look how Palpatine toyed with him and Savage in clone wars series, he obviously could've killed him with a single gesture, and so can Mace Windu (see Mace Windu vs Grievous for proof). "That is so like you, Master Kenobi. Anakin and Obi win and only win because of one minor inconvenience...Palpy relies on force augmentation. @kbroskywalker: considering Kit Fisto reacted the Palpatines speed blitz in the movie fine, blocking a few strikes before dying, Obi Wan would not get blitz at all. Sidious quickly killed Jedi Masters Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Kit Fisto, but had an extended confrontation with . Only with the Vaapad amp circumstantially channeled by his feeling of betrayal and love of the Republic, was he only able to match Sidious. This isn’t really whowouldwin but rather ‘can we trust the source material over power scaling and calcs’ and the answer is yes. Thanks to Windu's decades of Jedi training and incredible combat proficiency, he is able to . Found inside – Page 223virgin film The council turns down Qui - Gon's request that Anakin be trained , despite Jedi Masters Mace Windu ... She does this , and Palpatine himself is nominated to become chancellor ; Palpatine subsequently wins this election . Found insideIn the first half of a two-volume story, the New Republic's efforts to forge peace with the Empire is thwarted by a cabal of warlords led by the notorious, and reputedly dead, Grand Admiral Thrawn. Reprint. Based on canon sources only, I would say in pure sabers, Kenobi and Anakin are very capable of beating Sidious, although I think only 4 times out of 10, possibly 5. Found insideWith only a few matches left to be fought in the preliminaries to the third portion of the Journeyman Ninja Selection Exams, the highly anticipated bout between mysterious Sand ninja Gaara and intense, earnest Konoha ninja Rock Lee begins. By the time of RotS, Anakin managed to defeat Dooku, arguably the most technically skilled duellist in the history of the Jedi who went toe-to-toe with Yoda. Found insideNEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER • Lauded Star Wars author James Luceno returns to pen an intense tale of ambition and betrayal that sets the stage for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. Both Mace and Obi-Wan are the Revenge of the Sith versions. Mace Windu was a Human Jedi Master and arguably the Jedi Order's greatest warrior during the Clone Wars. Could Mace Windu have defeated Palpatine had Anakin not intervened or was Palpatine feigning weakness for Anakins sake? Technique for technique there's no one just beating him in a lightsaber duel because he was/is a prodigy duelist who's had years to hone his craft, and has found the absolute perfect system for himself. The novelization implies that Windu would have won had the battle continued. Anakin This is what I think of right now, but it's 99% subject to change. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Keep in mind that, even in canon, Palpatine toyed with Darth Maul and Savage Oppress (who are already basically on par with the Dream Team, at least in terms of 'sabers), competed with a monstrously amped Mace Windu, and stalemated Yoda. Looks at over a hundred years of film history. anakin was incredibly conflicted at the time and it was prior to him growing in power after swearing himself to palp. Luke gave himself over to the force to make the shot and destroy the death star. Can't be certain though. Don't kill me please." Maul even defeated Obi Wan before, and it was before he got his legs back. And the Red Leader? Palpatine>Yoda, Palpatine>Mace Windu. Found insideObi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker embark on a mission to uncover the wearabouts of the evil Sith Lord, Darth Sidious, only to become trapped in a labyrinthine web of lies, betrayal, and intrigue. A fight begins between them. You could be right, But as far as I know there is no evidence that show Sidious was holding back.....Mace was however amped in this duel which probably means his victory over Sidious doesn't count. Making the final assumption that you mean a fully amped and Vapaad Mace vs Sidious, Palpatine still has the advantage. This is a stomp in favor of Palpatine. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. @Silver2467: Kit Fisto has dueled Grievous as well, and held up favorably from what I recall, but I think I only saw a preview of their fight, so maybe the whole thing played out differently. He look absolutely bored throughout the most of the fight. Did you actually read the novel? Which is what's creating the problem here. The book concludes with an elaborate account of the structure of this language by Arundel Lowdham, a member of the Notion Club, who learned it in his dreams. It's kind of strange to see Palpatine overwhelm Yoda in almost every way during their later duel, but in the case of Mace Windu, he conveniently goofed off when Anakin . This definetly shows he has good speed,force and physical feats. Sidious basically could've ended the duel whenever he wanted. Without that he's nowhere near fast enough to deal with Anakin, nevermind Anakin and Obi. Let's say it works someth. Though Palpatine would win a majority for sure. If Palpatine can use the force, he is winning the majority. Which might have gone on forever, if Vaapad were Mace's only gift. Perhaps a later version of Kenobi would be able to take this battle, but not yet. Mace Windu catches up to Count Dooku during the battle of Geonosis. 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